[ Posted to the full-disclosure mailing list ] There is a common misconception in the diseased "security community" that sees Security Company as Savior and Evil Vendor as Satan. This is absolutely ridiculous. Putting aside the fact that most Microsoft security researchers have no interest in security -- merely using their advisories as a platform for assault against a corporation that their slashdot-bandwagon-induced brainwashing tells them is the evil empire of the Internet -- the smear campaigns launched by security companies against vendors (such as Microsoft) to justify their work is like watching a televised debate between the disincarnate souls of Hitler and Stalin titled "You, sir, are not a nice person." Microsoft's Mean Monopoly clearly has no business ethics. They shove their products down everyone's throat. They try to annul all competition. They stand accused of poor QA testing. Now have a look at the security industry. They describe themselves as refuges in a virtual battlefield -- a battlefield created and sustained by themselves. They are directly responsible for the uprising of the scriptkid population throughout the globe. They are cause and effect. They are the root of illness and the cleverly disguised snake oil panacea that claims to be a cure. They exist on fear, uncertainty, and doubt. They are hypocrites. They contradict themselves. Their knack for generating a false sense of security is surpassed only by their knack for securing a false sense of dependence. Their luminaries are unable to display critical thinking abilities when their views are challenged -- they resort to ad hominem attacks ("scriptkids," "lamers," ...) and circular logic. The most ardent lovers of full disclosure are the ones capitalizing on it (this is not an attack on capitalism, per se). They are in league with the governments of the world, governments that are blind to see that a *better* level of security can be achieved by eliminating the security industry. The government turns to the security industry for assistance in implementing and deploying its great new Orwellian devices and toys, and the security industry happily obliges... a security industry that is meant to be about security and privacy for the individual. The government passes new legislation that seeks to deter the symptoms (scriptkids), but does nothing for the cause (the security industry). You pay Microsoft a shitload of cash for Visual C++ and, hey, you get an IDE that most software engineers would give grudging respect to, at least. You pay the security industry a shitload of cash and what do you get? Absolutely nothing. Nada. Who are the real pricks? They will use us as an example. They will say Project Mayhem is only the more reason to invest in their services. If they get desperate enough, they will start to randomly raid and subdue us. Right now, their voice is overpowering. They are feeding the masses with their lies and deceit. They DO NOT CARE about security. The non-profit academic community cares about security. They DO NOT CARE about privacy for the individual. The EFF, EPIC, et al care about privacy for the individual. They are the demons of avarice who will drive rivets into the Internet, making it a prison that is controlled and patrolled by wardens who will rob the Internet of its great virtue: a place where the individual can express herself or have her voice heard. They will be to the Eden of the Internet what the Sedition Act was to the First Amendment. They will bolt this fucking thing down under the pretense of eradicating hackers. The "security" they are working towards as they amass large sums of money is the type of security that will destroy the only thing in the history of the world that had the potential to unite humanity through communication. Look beyond all the jeering and l33tspeak of Project Mayhem. Help us put an end to the security industry. Save the Internet. If you see the evils of what they are doing, do your part. No matter what your discipline of study, it's very likely that you can contribute a textfile or something that speaks at the wavelength of your particular discipline. Open the eyes of others.